• Klep

    I really am not dealing with this well. It’s only the need to stay composed at the office that’s keeping me from just falling apart entirely.

    • dwightdavis

      I would be day drinking if I wasn’t at the office.

      • ludditerobot

        I am not at the office and took the liberty of pouring myself a morning beverage. And now thinking I might just not go to the office at all. The “personal day” is still a thing, right?

        • dwightdavis

          Take the personal day and drink one for me.

      • What are you talking about? I’ve seen Mad Men! I know how offices are run!

      • Yes.

      • Miller

        Ah, the benefits of the satellite office *drinks*

    • ZoeZ

      I think we should all get the day off to go home and marathon past MOTW selections.

      • Klep

        There are two I haven’t watched: Zelig and It’s Always Fair Weather. Both are now high priorities.

        • The Narrator

          Zelig should have been a high priority in the first place, but whatever.

          • Matthew Stechel

            I don’t know between the two movies–I think It’s Always Fair Weather may actually be the better of the two. Zelig while creative as hell isn’t as engaging narratively…to me at least it wasn’t.

        • Delmars Whiskers

          They’d actually make a surprisingly complimentary double bill. Maybe I’ll take the day off myself…

        • Philip Lovecraft

          “It’s Always Fair Weather” is one of the greatest (unknown) musicals. Essentially it is a “noir” musical (aka post-WWII malaise), though still very much a comedy. Features what I consider the greatest musical number ever, “Baby, You Knock Me Out”. Dig it!

          • Matthew Stechel

            always thought there could’ve been a fantastic remake of it set in the aftermath of the Iraq War…but obviously I’m just as glad there wasn’t…but I feel like they could have done it and still kept like 95% of the story the way it was made in the 50’s and it would still be a great resonant story. Its an extremely underrated storyline.

      • Splint Chesthair

        I’ll be pouring out a Phantom of the Paradise in their honor tonight, fo sho.

      • It took me weeks to find a babysitter for Inside Out; finding one for “no, really, I have to marathon movies because reasons” is probably not happening, alas.

        • ZoeZ

          Yet another sign of the world’s imperfection. I’m glad you were able to find one for Inside Out, at least!

      • Well I’ve been needing to see Zabriskie Point another time anyway. Maybe I’ll get drunk and respond to comments from before my time

    • [ pilotfish ]

      I cried myself dry a few hours ago and have been eulogising The Dissolve across four different sites, which has helped…a little. I’m trying to rebound so hard, at this rate I’ll find myself back at The Dissolve and start weeping all over again.

      • BNF

        Yay! I’m not the only one who cried!/ Boo! We’re crying!

        Choose your own reaction.

        • [ pilotfish ]

          I chose…poorly.

    • DJ JD

      I have no idea how I’m going to explain to my wife why I’m so depressed tonight. “My favorite website ended” really doesn’t cut it.

      • Klep

        I lost a family member. That’s what it is.

      • dwightdavis

        Luckily as soon as my wife saw my tweet about losing The Dissolve, she texted me and said she loved me and was sorry for my loss and that she’d have whiskey poured and waiting for me when I get off this evening.

        • ludditerobot

          Your wife is awesome.

        • Will_Feral_Animal

          You married wisely, my friend.

        • Tyler

          My wife just txt’d me “I’m so sorry to hear about The Dissolve. How lame! I hope one of the followers has cash andcanhelp to keep them afloat. Perhaps they should start a Kickstarter campaign?”

          I like her.

          • dwightdavis

            It seems we both married winners.

        • Wow. I love your wife already.

      • ludditerobot

        I’ve had the same thought. My girlfriend is remarkably understanding about it, though, since we’ve talked before about how there’s basically never been an online community I felt so comfortable frequenting and how different it’s been. Less like “a website” than the people who make it up, the participation of contributors in the comments, the tone of the discourse, the fucking smarts of y’all. A different sort of engagement, I guess. It’s not like “I really preferred the way my local newspaper’s site worked before the revamp.”

      • Raoul F. Gonzo

        It has been odd, the disconnect when I tell people “the dissolve ended” and they just look at me like I’m crazy.

    • Benjamin Bear

      Today is my last day at a job I’ve had for a year and a half and really all that’s on my mind today is losing the Dissolve.

      • dwightdavis

        I’m supposed to be getting certified for this thing at my new job and all I’m doing is staring at this thread and at The Dissolve.

    • Persia

      I had to take my cat to the vet with a totally unexpected and terrifying seizure. I was holding it together before that but now I’m kind of a wreck.

      • Alternate Name

        Yow! Sorry to hear that. A few weeks ago my dachshund developed a squint. When I took her to the vet, I learned that it was a “corneal ulcer” and if I’d come in later emergency eye surgery might have been necessary.

        Hollywood ending: After three weeks of medication and of wearing an annoying dog collar, she’s perfectly fine! Good luck to you!

        • Persia

          Thank you! They’re doing the Toxin Flush, so hopefully she just ate something terrible and will get over it. I still feel like the rug got pulled out and I fell on my face though. I’m glad your pooch was okay.

      • A. Square

        All my thoughts and wishes, Persia.

        • Persia

          Thank you.

      • Oof. Online hugs, if you take them. What a lousy day.

        • Persia

          I will gladly take them. Thanks.

          She’s holding steady but they won’t know for a while how she’s going to be.

          • ludditerobot

            Hoping for the best and you both are in my thoughts.

          • Persia

            Thank you.

          • BNF

            Keeping you in my thoughts and sending hugs your way. If it was that sudden, it’s most likely something environmental, but that’s a terrifying thing to happen, no matter what.

      • I hope your poor cat is okay, Persia.

      • Keegan

        You were more upset by a website shutting down than your cat having a seizure and potentially dying? I love The Dissolve as much as the next person but c’mon

        • BNF

          You might want to read what Persia wrote again, because it wasn’t that.

        • Persia

          First, fuck you, and second, because I’m worried about my cat everything is upsetting me more. Third, seriously, fuck yourself.

          • Keegan

            My sincere apologies, I was inebriated and misread. I had to put my nearly 20 year old cat down a couple years back and I know how painful it is to lose/think you’re going to lose a pet or, more accurately, a family member. I’m sorry.

          • Persia

            It’s all right, it was late and I hadn’t slept. She’s home with me now. I’m sorry about your cat.

          • Keegan

            Glad to hear she’s okay!

      • Matthew Stechel

        I’m sorry about your cat Persia.

        • Persia

          She’s better this morning! Still no diagnosis but I’ll take a perky little twerp who knocked out her IV over a mostly-asleep, out-of-it cat making a horrible growly noise any day.

    • BNF

      It’s comforting to know I’m not the only one. I was having a really shit day and popped into The Dissolve to see what everybody was up to and cheer myself up. Talk about a blow. I actually cried.

    • Mike_From_Chicago

      I live down the street from a movie theater, and walking by it this evening I had the thought, “How will I know what’s good?” Those were basically the only critics I consistently trusted, and not having all of them in one convenient place is, well, disturbing.

  • CertainsGars

    With the dissolution of our great hangout site, I hope that much of the Dissolve community comes over to this site and continues the intelligent discourse that couldn’t be found in much of our hyperbole culture.

    • Will_Feral_Animal

      Hear, hear! I’m not on Facebook (yet) and am not particularly comfortable with AV Club comment sections which are overrun with stupid jokes.

      • DJ JD

        I will admit there’s been a bit of “paradigm-shifting without a clutch” being over there. They’re nice, but it’s different.

      • The AV Club is a meme-spewing snark pit these days. The fact that people at the Dissolve had intelligent, insightful conversation about most everything is just one of the reasons why it was the greatest website ever.

        • Chapman Baxter

          I don’t want to badmouth the AV Club but unlike The Dissolve it always feels that one has to wade through countless ‘joke’ threads before ever arriving at a genuinely substantial discussion. It was to The Dissolve’s credit that even the funny, throwaway threads tended to be smart and relevant to the subject being discussed rather than a chance for posters to show-off or snark.

          • It’s a site very dependent on the article and writer and subject, but I do think it’s getting at least a little better from last year.

          • Childish Callow Gleam

            i find it far too daunting when i get down to the end of an article and it already says “605 comments” or some such. That’s no way to have a discussion.

          • Chapman Baxter

            It’s almost ironic that the reason The Dissolve was such a welcome home for many of us here, it’s relatively small, albeit always welcoming, community (which thus facilitated much more manageable and substantial discussions), is the reason it appears it could not be sustained from a business point-of-view (i.e. too little traffic). That’s part of the reason The Solute, apart from continuing the intelligent level of analysis found at The Dissolve, seems like a better fit for our currently displaced community than the AV Club.

          • DJ JD

            For all the talk in the late nineties and early aughts of the Internet being the place where endless intelligent discourse would be happening constantly, I find it basically impossible to find a consistently smart, friendly, educated online community.

    • FilmFlamMan

      Between losing The Dissolve and Hannibal, the world is going to shit. What’s next?!

    • He Hate Cans

      I think this place is our best bet to maintain the Dissolve community. I feel bad that I’ve not been here more in the past. But I’m here now. I’m ready to go. Let’s talk movies!

  • dwightdavis

    Thanks for this. I’m not ready to say goodbye to the beautiful community that was The Dissolve. I feel like I lost a good friend today.

    • Klep

      We don’t have friends at The Dissolve. We got family.

      • TheGuyWhoShowsUpLateToThreads

        Who, then, is the annoying uncle with a drinking problem?

        • Klep

          Vinny Scagnetti.

        • ludditerobot

          Uh oh … I think that might be me.

      • Splint Chesthair

        Oh shit, my amnesia just went away!

  • ZoeZ

    There’s no “seconded” strong enough for this except “amen,” because if all art is an act of love, maybe all gratitude is an act of prayer.

  • Grimbridge

    *Walks across the hall from The Dissolve to The Solute*

    …got room for one more? 🙁

    • Of course! How do you like your tacos?

      • Grimbridge

        This is certainly a trick question for initiation. The answer is not how I like my tacos, but when I like my tacos, which is all the time.

        • That is the correct answer! We also would have accepted “while having Schindler’s List on in the background.”

      • With an ice cold Sam Adams.

        • Cliffy73

          But not really, because Sam Adams sucks.

          • I’d jump in to defend it, but I think it’s just alright.

            Can we have a BEER CORNER HERE?!!

          • Ruck Cohlchez

            Beer corner!

            I don’t know if it’s the summer heat or just plain burnout on extreme beers, but lately all I’ve been drinking are local brews ~5% ABV. Perfect for the summer. Fortunately, in Houston I have a number of craft breweries with such offerings to choose from.

          • ludditerobot

            Nothing wrong with a session beer on a hot day. Personally, I just drink 14% barleywines in the sun until someone takes me to the hospital, but to each their own.

          • Ruck Cohlchez

            I have found a couple barleywines I liked recently. Seems some breweries are going back to the “English” style of barleywine, with sweeter / maltier recipes, as opposed to the American-style grassy/pungent ones.

          • ludditerobot

            Oh, you don’t need to sell me. I enjoy barleywines a lot, and you’re right, there are more and more awesome ones cropping up. My taste veers towards heavier alcohol generally, in the barleywine / imperial / stout direction, but they might not make the best beach beverage, I guess.

            This is my choice right now, if we’re going to nerd it up. But I don’t think I’d drink too many over the course of the day.

          • Ruck Cohlchez

            Oh, yeah. I’m very familiar with Prairie. I think I have a Christmas Bomb sitting in my fridge still. (My local craft watering hole got a TON of Prairie on tap at one point last winter, so I got to try a bunch of the one-offs, like Pirate Bomb! and Wine Noir.)

            I’m a fan of lighter farmhouses / saisons, and the Prairie Somewhere was one of my favorites. Wish it’d become available aroudn here again.

          • ludditerobot

            Sweet. Yeah, Beer Rev here in Oakland keeps getting the regular Bomb on tap, in no small part due to my enthusiasm. So you’re welcome, Oakland.

          • Mike_From_Chicago

            I find myself in the Trappist more often, which is odd because Beer Revolution is by far the better bar. My wife and I were actually in there on Christmas Eve this past year – they handed out free bourbon beer to the little group of alcoholics and sad-sacks.

          • SG Standard

            I had a barleywine for the first time today! Baggywrinkle Barleywine. It was quite tasty, and it definitely did what its ABV implied it would do.

          • dwightdavis

            I was visiting family in Nashville over the weekend and had Yazoo’s summer seasonal. They did a gose this year, and it’s so damn good.

          • Ruck Cohlchez

            I’m kind of astounded that gose seems to be taking off as the hot style this year. Real Ale released one and I’ve seen at least one or two others on tap in town.

          • dwightdavis

            I had one from Westbrook a couple of weeks back that tasted identical to a Warhead. Made the mistake of using it for a drinking game before I knew that. It…wasn’t the best.

          • Ruck Cohlchez

            I had Victory’s cherry gose the other day. It was pretty good.

          • Polemarchus

            I do some trading and I love it when East Coast folks throw me a Westbrook extra (I’m in CA). To Ol has a very nice, crisp gose I’ve been starting with at my local spot. Big fan of the low abv tart saisons in San Diego / Orange County too this summer.

          • Same. I’ve been buying these 6 packs of Trader Joe’s German beer styles, and loving it. They’re really cheap and pretty tasty.

            When I’m feeling fancier, Anchor Steam & Shiner Bock fill my summer.

          • Ruck Cohlchez

            My selection from lightest to darkest, Houston-area:

            -Saint Arnold Summer Pils
            -Southern Star Bombshell Blonde
            -Karbach Staycation
            -Saint Arnold Santo

          • I’ve never had any of these and it made me realize how much fun beer tourism is. Just going on a short trip to Gatlinburg Tennessee, I saw mostly different craft beer from Chicago (Because of North Carolina, mostly).

            I love it.

          • dwightdavis

            If you’re ever back in *EDIT* Tennessee, try some Yazoo, Fat Bottom, Black Abbey, and Jackalope. All Nashville breweries, all freaking great.

          • I’m trying to remember which types I had, but I definitely had Yazoo, Black Abbey, and Jackalope beers in town. It was a birthday weekend trip and we stayed in Gatlinburg so we heavily raided the liquor store 🙂

            We don’t get Yuengling up here either, so plenty of that was tossed in too.

          • I just ate at Oak Creek Brewery in Sedona and their King Crimson (!) Ale is great

          • Tyler

            I wound down the evening with a Fish Tale Ale – Beyond The Pale, outta Olympia, WA.

          • Drank two beers yesterday:

            Revolution’s 1Z Nuff – an 11% Double IPA (at the Music Box) – of Chicago, IL
            Upland’s Dragonfly – IPA (at dinner after) – of Bloomington, IN

          • Mike_From_Chicago

            Two beers in a day? Like, do you consider the period between 5 and 5:30 as a “day?”

            For Chicagoland beers, my favorite is Edmund Fitzgerald porter from Great Lakes Brewing. It’s one of the things I miss most about leaving the Midwest. Also, if you’re up for the drive, New Glarus’ Spotted Cow (sold exclusively in Wisconsin) lives up to the hype.

          • Great Lakes makes some terrific beers, and I definitely pick up Edmund Fitzgerald from time to time in the fall-winter (so, most of the year here) to keep me warm.

            And I just love New Glarus – it’s sort of an understood thing around here that if you have some New Glarus in your fridge, you either just went to Wisconsin or you’ve got some nice friends. Spotted Cow is delicious, but I’m more partial to a beer they make called Moon Man. I could drink that stuff all day.

          • grayola

            OH MY GOD PLEASE

      • On Tuesday.

        Dammit, 6 more days…

        • Andrew

          On Wednesdays, we wear pink.

      • Ruck Cohlchez
      • Mike_From_Chicago

        Admit it – this site only exists so you can have a “staff” emblem next to your name.

    • Alternate Name

      * looks around *

      Uh, is this the place where we’re having the wake?

      • The Narrator

        I’m going to assume this is a Magic Mike XXL reference.

        • Grimbridge

          Nah, it’s a Tyryator Gyeynyy reference. Magic Mike XXL never happened on this timeline.

          • DJ JD

            Thank God. More than anything else, that right there is how I knew I was finally home again.

    • Make it two.

      • Philip Lovecraft

        Sorry, posted the same thing before seeing yours. You’re first!

    • Philip Lovecraft

      Better make that 2 more!

    • Big Pete Bondurant

      Same. I can’t stand TOS (are we still using that here?) anymore with their terrible writers, Grantland is great but has no comments, and Indiewire’s format and layout is a mess.

    • I’m here, you know, me?!

  • Well said, as always.

  • Tyler

    Thanks for this @disqus_wallflower:disqus. I’m proud to have been, and always be, a Dissolver.

    Long live The Solute!

  • Well, I suppose there’s no time like the present to show up. As upset as I am about this, it’s really cool seeing everyone here.

  • The Narrator

    This is as good a prodding as any to get me to start writing more for this site.

    • ludditerobot

      Yeah. Not that anyone’s specifically asked, but if there’s ever a need for contributions, I’m in. And if not, that’s cool, I’ll be reading and hanging out down here.

      • dwightdavis

        Same here. I’ve been wanting to try my hand at film writing. Now that I’m out of grad school and have free time again, now is as good of a time as ever.

      • Grimbridge

        This.

      • I was interested in helping The Solute when Julius first mentioned it, but I was about to start my junior year at college so I decided that I wouldn’t have the time. I’m sure volunteers for content will be pouring in now, but I would definitely voice interest again. Y’all have any need for random box office analysis?

    • Tyler

      I’ve been on the emails from the launch but haven’t made the jump to actually contribute something…

      I’d love to start doing some more consistent writing; I’ve got so many ideas!!

    • TheGuyWhoShowsUpLateToThreads

      Question — how do you become a contributor?

      • Cliffy73

        Show up at Julius’ house at 3 in the morning and tell him you are going to make him watch JAWS 3-D if he doesn’t let you post your manifesto.

        • Hey, I could theoretically do that; he’s only an hour up the road, after all.

          • dwightdavis

            If only we were all one hour up the road, we could meet for drinks and tears tonight.

          • That would definitely be a “leave the kid at home” moment for me, I tell you.

    • Mr. Logical

      We’ve got a lot more time on our hands now.

  • [ pilotfish ]

    Thank you @wallflower, you make me proud to call myself a Dissolver; now and forevermore.

    Even before we got confirmation and were stuck swirling around rumours and optimistic predictions, I spent most of today listening to this song on loop. As it turns out, the lyrics were depressingly relevant and yet still kind of touching and appropriate.

    The Dissolve was a weird and wonderful place, and I am a better person because of it.

    The community was intelligent, earnest, accepting, passionate and diverse; and I doubt I’ll see anything quite like it (those precise conditions and people together with that level of editorial content to bounce off of) for many years to come.

    It will be missed.

    PS: Oh…and fuuuck Pitchfork (I really needed to say that out loud, just once).

    • dwightdavis

      I say that about Pitchfork at least once daily, just for good measure.

    • I can get that Pitchfork is a business and The Dissolve was probably unprofitable. But there’s no reason–there’s no fucking reason–to just shut it down like that, in the middle of a day, just before their second anniversary.

      • Klep

        And to leave us just hanging like that, it was cruel. Just cruel. I’m not going to forgive them any time soon.

      • ludditerobot

        Or summarily dispatch Rabin like that, etc. It’s less the business decision than the manner in which it was carried out. I don’t know all the details, but it sure looks shitty and classless from where I’m sitting.

        • dwightdavis

          I didn’t know they got rid of Rabin.

          It’s hard for me to respect Pitchfork. They seem to pride themselves on being the opposite of The Dissolve: A place where no respect is afforded and harshness is the standard.

          • Ruck Cohlchez

            I haven’t read Pitchfork in years, but when I did, the writing was always, just, the worst. Overly in love with itself and its own cleverness, a thinly veiled guise for the writer to work out whatever new metaphors and musical references they were proud of themselves for knowing, and all in all did very little to communicate anything about the album itself, about its quality, sound, moods, stories, etc.

            If you told me the “Guy in your MFA” Twitter account was stocked entirely with tweets from future Pitchfork writers, I would not be surprised.

          • dwightdavis

            I love Guy in your MFA.

            I followed PitchforkMe for awhile and it just made me too angry.

          • Ruck Cohlchez

            A guy in one of my college writing workshops actually did go on to write for Pitchfork for a time. He was by some measure the worst writer in the class, and in a very Pitchfork way.

          • I used to be mostly into music and used Pitchfork for news. When I saw the announcement of a film site I stayed away for a yearand a half because they were the ones starting. Boy do I feel like shit for not joining until early this year.

          • Ruck Cohlchez

            Yeah, in the early 2000s I was much more into music than anything else, and Pitchfork was right up my alley taste-wise, but I just couldn’t bear to read the articles. I’d just look for “Best New Music” picks and make sure to give all of those a spin.

            It was the opposite of Cokemachineglow, which I always found well-written but whose site tastes seemed to cater exclusively to the range between “ambient noise” and “atonal noise.”

        • Green-billed Magpie

          eh, if they were this close to shutting down, they might have been almost doing Rabin a favor.

          there’s no way they didn’t see this coming when he left

          • ludditerobot

            Fair enough. And he’s killing it with the freelance stuff, it would seem, so that’s good. It still seems like it could’ve been handled a littttle bit better.

            ETA — didn’t notice your comment above, which is spot on.

          • DJ JD

            I thought the same thing, in retrospect. These are way, way too close together for this to have not been known.

            I’m not as down on Pitchfork as some here, because they let the Dissolve happen at all, but this wasn’t handled well.

        • What exactly happened? Did they just fire him out of the blue?

          • ludditerobot

            Don’t know about “out of the blue,” but by all or most accounts, there didn’t seem to be much advance notice, no.

      • [ pilotfish ]

        Exactly! If the site isn’t pulling in enough revenue, don’t jump straight to Fire-Sale tactics. Setting aside how inconsiderate and cavalier that action is, why not read the damn room before torching it!
        I don’t know about you, but I would’ve been happy to pay a monthly subscription in order to keep the site up and running (I don’t say that lightly, I hate paywalls). The Dissolve’s community is/was tight-knit and small, but fiercely passionate and appreciative for the content/discussion space we received. I would’ve signed up without hesitation and I’d like to think a lot of the other regulars would have too (provided the reasoning behind it – “help, we are at risk of going under” was kept in the open).

        The handling of this situation angers me like a bad movie where I can tell what could’ve been done so much better. It’s sad.

        • Green-billed Magpie

          yeah, I mentioned after Rabin left that it would suck if we just showed up one day and it was shut down for financial reasons.

          I don’t understand websites being this hidden with their circumstances. If you’re struggling, let the users know and try different tactics.

          I guess the two reasons would be:
          a) asking for help means being more open about your finances, and opens you to critiques about how you’re spending money
          b) it’s not that you can’t keep going, but that you just aren’t successful *enough*

          • Jean-Luc_de_Lemur

            Admitting you’re not a success also isn’t a good way to inspire confidence.

        • Chapman Baxter

          Indeed. The Dissolve is one of the few (maybe the only) sites I’d contemplate paying a monthly subscription for, simply because there’s no other site that comes close to replicating everything it did so well.

          • ludditerobot

            Yep, I’ve seconded people on multiple occasions calling for a subscription model. I don’t know that it would be sustainable, but I’d definitely be on board to support. Everything you say is correct — there’s nothing close to it in terms of the range it covers, the intelligence of the writing, the seriousness with which folks approach even unserious topics, mixed with humor and news and, of course, a community that actually cares.

      • Splint Chesthair

        They didn’t even finish publishing the Grizzly Man pieces! That’s cold, Pitchfork.

        • And what haunts me is that in all the faces of all the Pitchfork articles that I ever clicked on, I discover no kinship, no understanding, no mercy. I see only the overwhelming indifference of nature.

          Just kidding; I actually like checking in on Pitchfork for music news and recommendations. But still, it was a rather abrupt pulling of the plug.

          • Belated Comebacker

            Did you admire its purity?

      • Benjamin Bear

        Idk if I’m the only one that loved and still misses Altered Zones but it was the same thing as the Dissolve. Clearly unprofitable pet website that they wind up pulling the plug on with 0 warning. Fuckin p4k.

        • Some fine-ass avatar/comments/event synergy there, buddy.

    • lucas

      I don’t know. I get that Pitchfork was the one to pull the plug, but who else but Pitchfork would have given birth to a place like the Dissolve in the first place? It may not be what anyone wants to hear, and I have my own reservations about the site, but the gang over at The Dissolve seem to be pretty grateful for having gotten the opportunity to make the site happen and be so true to itself. At least for that I say thanks to Pitchfork.

      • Cliffy73

        Yes, I’m sure it was pissing money away. Announcing ahead of time that it was going to shutter sometimes leads to a brief farewell bump, but more typically people drift away.

        • Persia

          They could’ve gotten some cash out of the farewell bump, though, if they’d carried through until Friday. The site was so structured as a M-F venture killing it on Wednesday just seems rude.

          • Green-billed Magpie

            yeah, I have to assume there was a *serious* internal reason for shutting down today, because it’s not the end of the week, the end of the month, the end of the fiscal year….why now?

      • I’m not acquainted with how anybody makes money on the internet writing, so the fact that they bank-rolled 2 years with a full-time staff is pretty impressive.

        I don’t know enough of the insider baseball to say if they handled this correctly or not. I just know I’ll miss it.

      • I agree. There are still a lot of features I read there regularly.

  • Ledge Man

    Well, I suppose this is my home for film now.

  • Grimbridge

    In all seriousness, today is the first time I have heard of The Solute, and I’m delighted to find that not only are many familiar Dissolve folk commenting here, but many familiar Dissolve folk are the creative team behind this site. I truly enjoy and appreciate the writing and views of so many of you and I’m relieved to not have to give that up. I only wish I had visited sooner but it’s great to see everybody here. I would love to contribute a review or feature to this site someday if you’d have me. I promise I won’t probably won’t try to convince everybody that Three Men and a Little Lady is actually a masterpiece.

    • rolandsaintlaurent

      I really, really want to read why Three Men and a Little Lady is a masterpiece.

      • Grimbridge

        The people have spoken!

      • Will_Feral_Animal

        Oh no! What have you done?!?

        • Grimbridge

          TOO LATE THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN

          *Steve Guttenberg emerges with a single tear in his eye because this is the first time anyone has mentioned his film on the internet ever*

  • Peeks in, having spent too much of the morning mourning The Dissolve.

  • dwightdavis

    I was talking to a friend and we think that The Dissolve was maybe too respectful to thrive in today’s “I hate everything” interweb environment. So perhaps the tombstone should read: “The Dissolve: If Only They Hated Movies More”

    • Dan Abnormal

      Subtitle: Or: “Not Even The Birdman Hate Could Sustain It”

      • Someone at another website I frequent called the site “contrarian,” and I’m just like “whaaaaaaa?” But they were a Birdman fan and a Mike D’Angelo dissenter, so that’s probably skewing their perception.

        • I’d argue that it is (fuck, was) the least contrarian movie site in existence. But I am biased.

          • DJ JD

            I think one could easily make the case that contrarianism has won the day, and necessarily so in a world of ad-driven web revenue. Slate, these days, is “normal.”

          • Will_Feral_Animal

            Hey Glorbes! Are you part of the Facebook group?

            I signed up for fb last night as “Will Feral-Animal” just to ensure I stay in touch with as many people from The Dissolve as possible. That group will be my only activity on the site. Please consider joining, if you haven’t. You are one of the best voices from the ol’ site!

          • I actually just re-activated a never used Facebook page for the express purpose of this. I’m Glorbesworld Bruce! And I;m still Yohei…but a different picture of Yohei just to mix things up a bit.

          • washington

            Ditto, bet no one can guess who I am.

  • lgauge

    I’m very grateful to have The Solute, today more than ever. Thanks Julius and all the contributors (like Wallflower here) for making it possible.

    • Julius is a goddamned phenomenon, putting this site together and doing so much to keep it running. We’re all hugely grateful to him, all the time.

      • BNF

        I just want to second that. I don’t post here much because I only had so much online time available in a day and The Dissolve took up most of that, but I’ve been very impressed with Julius’ commitment to keeping this place running and running at a very high level.

        Just based on the challenges BurgundySuit seemed to be having keeping people on schedule for the Month of Rabin, I can’t imagine how much work it takes.

  • Dan Abnormal

    Oh hey, all my rowdy comment board friends are here!

    Beautiful eulogy, wallflower. To quote Neil Young (freely): “The Dissolve is gone, but it’s not forgotten”.

    • Thank you. To use another line of his, “love and only love will endure.”

      • Dan Abnormal

        That guy had a beautifully sad line appropriate for anything, didn’t he?

        *wistful sigh*

        • Delmars Whiskers

          Too bad Rockin’ In The Free World will now always be associated with a big orange oaf riding down an escalator.

          • Dan Abnormal

            Hey, that’s no way to talk about John Boehner.

        • BNF

          Yep.

          “But only love can break your heart,
          Try to be sure right from the start,
          Yes only love can break your heart,
          What if your world should fall apart?

          I’ve got a friend I’ve never seen.”

    • Ruck Cohlchez

      Don’t let it bring you down, it’s only castles burning.

    • Miller

      Some more Young: I’m still living the dream we had, for me it’s not over.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLBCjjvhM1Q

  • Semi-bored torontonian

    Thank you for this.

  • Andrew

    Hi.

    • Yo. Good to see you. Snacks are over there.

      • Andrew

        SNACKS!

      • dwightdavis

        Are the snacks tacos?

  • Chapman Baxter

    The Solute is a wonderful place for continuing The Dissolve’s legacy of intelligent, thoughtful and original film-writing but it’s still going to be impossible for almost any site to capture everything The Dissolve did so well, from up-to-date, and mostly very reliable, movie news to the daily round up of all the best film writing across the web to its thorough analysis and lively discussion of the MOTW. It really was a great one-stop-shop for movie-lovers, from fans of comic-book movie franchises to connoisseurs of art-house cinema and everything in-between, and it’s closure represents a massive, and likely permanent, void.

  • Will_Feral_Animal

    Wallflower – you have truly outdone yourself with this beautiful eulogy/summation. It appears as though today will be a non-stop barrage of emotional punches to the gut as I come to grips with the loss of the one website that felt like home to me.

    I’m pushing and praying that you wonderful folks who started up The Solute will pick up the baton that The Dissolve crew started running for us cinephiles two years ago and lead us on to even more insightful discourse in the future.

    I look to The Solute to carry us to the gates of Valhalla… shiny and chrome!

    • We’re gonna do our best, I promise you. To pick up on @disqus_DVcl9JtDl4:disqus’s comment, there will never be another Dissolve, though (at the minimum, we can’t do anything like the Newsreel here, not yet anyway). But we do have a bunch of people who care about film and (way more important) we do have the best commenters in all the Interwebz. So there’s hope.

      TO INFINITY. . .AND BEYOND!

      • The Ploughman

        I’ve been an irregular Solute visitor, so maybe this is a thing, but can there be a regular landing pad for recurring threads (What Did You Watch Last Night? etc) the way there was Cable Picks and Read On in the morning/afternoon at Dissolve?

        • DJ JD

          That seems like a crucial and time-sensitive add, if you can swing it.

        • I for one would be totally happy with that. The thing is, we don’t update articles or keep up with film news with the regularity of The Dissolve. We might do more of that now, and I don’t think anyone would object to commenters setting up their own threads within other articles.

          And I see @Anthony Pizzo:disqus already has some thoughts about this.

          • He Hate Cans

            I think you could definitely have landing pad articles that are less full articles and more just excuses to get the community talking. I’d love for there to be a few weekly things (we could continue Streaming recommendations or Female Stuff) and we’ll just post relevant links, thoughts and discussions in the comments without there needing to be anything in the article.

          • Persia

            If you’re using WordPress, you can program posts to show up in advance, so there could be an open ‘what did you watch’ thread on M-F mornings without having to do much work.

          • Yes we are, and we might do something like that. We’re now kicking ideas around among the Solute Brain Trust.

          • Persia

            Thank you guys!

          • Alternate Name

            Another vote for a regular “What Did You Watch?” thread.

          • Ryan S.

            I’ll probably be checking out this site a lot more now that The Dissolve ended. I just wanted to make a suggestion that you guys should take over the Movie of the Week. Its absence leaves a pretty big hole in my movie viewing schedule. I don’t think it would ruffle any feathers as a MOTW is not really a trademarked idea from The Dissolve and would keep up the club-like atmosphere. It would also probably help me become a regular reader. This idea has probably already been discussed elsewhere but I haven’t seen it yet.

          • We’re on it, check out the front page (-;

          • Ryan S.

            Sounds good! Will do!

        • A. Square

          This is my hope.

      • Anthony Pizzo

        I think, at the least, we need to have a column for our recurring comment games, like Self Promotion, Random 10, recent acquisitions, etc.

        I should work on that.

        • Just spitballing here, but maybe every Monday someone could post an Open Thread in Short Articles like that? Maybe call it “Sound Off, Commenters” or something less lame?

          • Miller

            “Spew Forth, Commenters!”

          • “The Wretched Hive.”

          • The Ploughman

            Of course, I guess the obvious title would be “What Did You Watch Last Night?”

        • Will_Feral_Animal

          How about a Cable Pick of the Day to start the morning off right?
          I need this!!!

          • Anthony Pizzo

            Good idea. Should we give it a different name?

          • The Ploughman

            Maybe rotate somebody posting a recommendation each morning (cable or streaming)?

            Also, while we’re talking resurrection, I’d love to see Short Cuts come back.

          • Will_Feral_Animal

            I’ll leave that up to you fine writery types… I don’t think its necessary but defer to you to decide.

          • Cliffy73

            It seems like this week there’s probably enough volunteers around that you could get a cable pick/whud you watch rotation put together.

        • A. Square
  • rolandsaintlaurent

    I’m really disappointed that Tiny Tim never did a recording of Amazing Grace, because that’s what I want to post here.

    Oh, and, hello all.

  • Anthony Pizzo

    Man I’m really bummed out by this.

  • Beautiful eulogy, Wallflower.

  • washington

    I should probably post here more.

    • Tyler

      I’m already looking for apartments.

  • Chapman Baxter

    For anyone who’s seen the film, the way I feel at the moment is kind of like Holly Hunter towards the end of ‘Broadcast News’ where her office is being shutdown/downsized and her colleagues are packing up their stuff, and she says “It just hurts physically, doesn’t it? Like something’s wrong with your bones.”

    • I’ve done a few Soundtrackings where I felt like Joan Cusack running through the hallways carrying a videotape while dodging file cabinets, yes.

  • Reverend Doctor Drewcifer

    What’s next? Anybody win the lottery this morning, by any chance?

  • Beautiful eulogy. I’m so shocked and saddened by today’s news. I don’t want to lose this community on toon of losing the site. Even if I’ve been a terrible member of it lately.

  • Flag On the Moon

    This seemed sort of out-of-the-blue, and the message on the site had a “wow, didn’t think I’d be writing this today” feel, no matter how much writing may or may not have been on the wall. I do hope this doesn’t mean all pop-culture sites will continue towards “all video, all the time”; I go to the internet to get away from talking heads. But I don’t have much faith there.

    • Persia

      Tobias was literally one paragraph into his Tangerine review: http://scotttobias.tumblr.com/post/123555191666/tangerine

      • Klep

        It’s a really good paragraph too.

      • Flag On the Moon

        Ouch. I hope they all find good new things soon.

        • Persia

          Me too.

        • Klep

          As I said on Twitter, my film sensibilities are defined by Scott, Keith, and Tasha. It’s their reviews I’ve been reading since I started paying attention to reviews. No one has had more impact on how I think about movies and what I like in them than those three.

  • DJ JD

    So where is Julius? I expected to hear from him by now.

    • Under the protocol for Catastrophic Cultural Failure, he’s been evacuated to an undisclosed location at least thirty miles from the Seattle city center and provisioned with several blu-rays of Showgirls and Mahogany. The rest of the Solute has all moved to their designated fail-safe points and are awaiting orders.

      • DJ JD

        Godspeed that beautiful man, and God help us all.

      • DJ JD

        Okay, serious etiquette question time (that I apparently asked the wrong person before.) Why did you all start the Solute? If it’s just to keep talking about movies, great! That’s why I’m here too. But if there was another reason, what should/shouldn’t happen to keep this from technically qualifying as a forum invasion?

        • It was pretty much because some of us were writing such huge and off-topic comments that we felt we should make them full-on articles and make our own site for them. It wasn’t in any way that we were dissatisfied with The Dissolve, oh my no; just about everyone here still commented (past tense. WHAAAAAAAAH) over there.

          • If you’d like someone to write at great length about Star Trek or The Archers, I know a guy. He also likes Kurosawa quite a bit, and is big on science fiction in general.

          • A. Square

            I for one would love to read articles by you.

          • I don’t even like Star Trek and I’d read an article on it from you, Glorbes.

          • Persia

            I was actually already thinking of asking you guys if you’d mind letting my post my Fincher stuff over here, in a more formal way (maybe year by year) because people had asked me if I was archiving it anywhere.

            Um…who should I ask?

          • Julius Kassendorf remains Fearless Leader of the Solute, so you could ask him, but you might want to wait a week or so and see how the commenting situation shakes out here. There might be a new One to Rule Them All in the comments.

          • Persia

            Yeah, I figured. I’ll bug Julius if there isn’t an obvious answer after the shakeout.

  • Klep

    Ok, now I’m home from the office and I’m bawling.

    • ludditerobot

      I’m taking consolation in the collective outpouring and the various attempts (here, FB, shared letterboxd profiles, and on and on) to not just let things fizzle away. This doesn’t make up for the total gap The Dissolve leaves as a unique place and set of voices, but it speaks to the community investment in it and people’s desire to keep that going. It’s pretty touching, really.

      Then again, it’s 10:00 a.m. and I’ve already had a beer or two, so maybe I’m just being sentimental. By noon, I imagine I’ll be screaming out, “I love you guys!” and trying to hug everyone, so sorry in advance for that.

    • He Hate Cans

      Oh I’ve been going through the stages of grief hardcore today. The hope that the community can continue over here is helping edge me toward acceptance.

      But, yeah, I considered calling in sick to work today. It’s been bad.

      • ludditerobot

        I did call in. Granted, I also fucked up my body backpacking over the weekend and so might’ve done so anyways, but the combo between “not being able to walk very well” and “The Dissolve, sigh” was decisive.

      • I’m not going through the stages of grief. This is just a prank. It’s definitely coming back.

        OH GOD FIRST STAGE!!

      • Yeah, the thing about this is that my son is way, way too young to understand why Mommy is sad and in fact slightly too young to really care, so long as he has cereal and raisins.

  • *Heavy sigh*

    I’ve recently lost something near to me. So now I’m here I guess?

    *hugs everyone*

    I want to say that I’ll be out of the house all day until late tonight but I’ve already gotten inquiries about a writer’s workshop. I don’t have a Facebook so it will behoov me greatly to get an email list. If you are at all interested hit me up on twitter @SailorPancakes or my email riley.sailer.wc@gmail.com. Please get everyone involved I will be thinking about the mechanics all day.

    • *hugs back. It’s awkward for a few minutes but after a while we make it work.*

      The writer’s workshop is a good idea. Let’s make that work. I also followed on Twitter if that’ll help facilitate things more.

    • Persia

      Scriptwriting or any old writing?

      • Any form of creative writing. We can arrange accordingly depending on what kind of material is up for feedback. We can have a script day or a poetry day you know.

        • Persia

          That sounds fun!

          • Email me fools!

          • Belated Comebacker

            Extremely late commenter here (see my username?), and I wanted to know if it was too late to e-mail you, as I’d be very interested in exploring this conceit.

          • DO IT.

        • dwightdavis

          I’m in!

  • A. Square

    Hiyall. Sorry I never spent much time here – it was never for lack of quality (quite the opposite, I’ve found the level of writing here fantastic), but I barely had enough time to regularly comment at The Dissolve as it was. “Was”. Ugh. Anyway, god bless y’all for creating this place, I hope to be a citizen in good standing.

    • This is more or less the same boat I’m in. I’ve never been over here much, not because the site isn’t good but because I only have so much time for internet surfing and the Dissolve took up a lot of it. I guess this will be our hang out now? It’ll take a while before referring to the Dissolve in past tense won’t make me sad.

      • Batman Vladimir Superman

        Yeah, same here. For as long as I lurked at the Dissolve, I only just recently started posting. I guess I’ll just lurk here from now on.

    • Miller

      Yeah, I did need to do SOME work so I didn’t poke around here. That’s probably going to change.

  • christof62

    Erm…hello everyone.

    I’m not sure if I’m cool enough to hang around with you cats but I have a fake I.D and a car if that helps.

  • Benjamin Bear

    I know we were doing this over at the Dissolve this morning but I’ve been binge adding y’all on Letterboxd, so please add me so I can keep following:

    http://letterboxd.com/BenjaminBear/

    I also tweet @BigBennyBear, mostly about movies too (and soccer!)

  • Reverend Doctor Drewcifer

    Will TOS cover this at all? Will they dare? Will I care?

    • DJ JD

      Doesn’t look like it.

    • Flag On the Moon

      It was on Kinja as part of the “everyone panic today” post. As for TOS, I can see how it would be hard to make a constructive article considering the history of everything.

      http://gawker.com/ladies-and-gentlemen-its-time-to-panic-1716514222

    • It’s kind of an awkward thing to cover under the circimstances. Probably better if they don’t. It is certainly being discussed in the comments though. That’s how I found out.

  • help im a bug

    the only thing i hope is that this exodus doesn’t harm those who left the dissolve to comment here for a reason.

    • DJ JD

      I’ve posted a few times here, but I’m pretty part-time. So, obvious etiquette question: why *did* you brave few, you band of brothers, land here in the first place? I’d love to keep talking movies with everyone, but I would also like to hear if there was a larger point to setting your own site up besides to just keep the conversation rolling.

      • help im a bug

        it wasn’t me, i stuck around at the dissolve, i just noticed when it happened

      • I just like writing stuff that I think people will read, and we were kind of gunking up the comments section with really long articles.

  • Thanks for this, wallflower. I’m crying a little bit at work, and I don’t care.

    • Will_Feral_Animal

      No denying, I can get emotional (hell, a Kleenex commercial can get me to well up) but going through my Twitter feed just now and reading all of The Dissolve related tweets, I started to sob… luckily, I have an office with a door I can shut to stave off embarrassment…well, as much as I reasonably can.

  • Man, within two minutes of waking up and turning on my computer I got hit with the news that my favorite movie site was closing shop, and then that my date for lunch had to cancel. Not sure I’ve ever had such a bummer start to a day before.

    Thank you for this lovely eulogy though, wallflower. I’ll definitely be hanging around here more often.

  • Renleigh

    Hi Soluters. I’m incredibly bummed, but I’m glad this site is here to keep the entire community from crumbling into dust and blowing away instantly.

  • Triangle Goose Party

    I’m considering taking the extreme measure of making a twitter for the sake of following all the former Dissolve writers. I never thought I’d get that desperate.

    (also: Hi Solute! I don’t think I’ve ever commented here before)

    • He Hate Cans

      I actually deleted my Twitter account just a few weeks ago because I couldn’t deal with that environment any more. Now I’ve made a new one for the sake of following the Dissolve writers (and a few other writers who I like). I think keeping it narrowly focused is the key.

  • Dan Abnormal

    An Overdue Eulogy to The Dissolve

    by Dan Abnormal

    When I heard the news that the Movie Reviewing Dream Team of Scott Tobias, Keith Phipps, Nathan Rabin, Tasha Robinson, et al, were no longer members of my once (and occasionally still, but not as much as it was in the past) beloved AV Club, a site that I never spent a day without making frequent updates to, no matter when or where, I was crestfallen. And frankly, it’s a loss that has affected the quality of content on that very site to this very day. Sure, O’Neal was always great (still is), Vishnevetsky is one of the best critical voices out there today, Dowd…..well, Dowd has definitely grown in my eyes, but I still have my problems with him, and up until HE made his own exodus, Todd Van Der Werffe’s TV coverage was always in-depth and most welcome, if a tad overwritten. But then that gets bogged down in a glut of Hatesongs and Great Job, Internets and so forth.

    But I am getting off-message here. I came to praise The Dissolve, not to bury TOS. When I learned that Tobias, Phipps, Rabin, Robinson, Murray, and Koski would be forming their own site devoted entirely to everything film, with a little help from friends like Matt Singer and Mike D’Angelo and Sam “Taco Break” Adams, I was overjoyed, and I breathlessly counted down the days, the hours, the minutes, until the launch of The Dissolve. My reaction to the content that the site offered?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u5uMLi0ghg

    (The content did in fact melt my face off. In a good way. Not in a killing weaselly Nazis way.)

    Movie of the Week (which is where I gratefully was made aware of the existence of Los Angeles Plays Itself and A Moment of Innocence, where films I had already seen and loved, such as Jaws, Gremlins, The Master, and so many others were given their own thoroughly in-depth critical moment in the sun), Phipps’ Lazer Age, Career View, One Year Later, coverage from film festivals like Tribeca, Sundance, Cannes, Toronto, True/False. With the addition of Weapon of Mass Snarkstruction Rachel Handler, we were told who won and who lost that day’s film news, and we found out just how gross the movie industry was being that week towards women with Female Stuff. Nathan Rabin took on the IMDB Top 250, and shone a spotlight on the great unheralded character performances of all time in Staunch Characters. Mike D’Angelo looked at what performances in any given year were better than the performance that won the Oscar. We learned what essential (and somewhat less essential *COUGH* Richard Brody *COUGH*) film writing was out there for us to read on the interwebs. We learned what movies were about to make their way to Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Fandor, Crackle, HBO GO.

    Thanks to the reviews of the Dissolve, I discovered how truly great films like The Immigrant, Her, Under the Skin, Stranger By The Lake, and so many others were, thanks to the passion and enthusiasm these writers brought to their craft. Thanks to the reviews of the Dissolve, we also found out how Scott Tobias really feels about Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu. Whether they panned or praised, whether you agreed or disagreed (and no D’Angelo, James Cameron would not be a better alternate universe choice to direct Jurassic Park than Spielberg), you could really tell that they were not writing this content to get clickviews or to troll commenters: they were doing this from the heart, with pure passion.

    I held off on becoming a frequent presence on the comment boards, because, to my mind, what possible insights could I have hoped to offer an already stunningly enlightened and erudite comments section? Well, enlightened except for Vinny Scagnetti, of course, but still. It was thanks to the beloved Dissolve commenter Elizabeth Lerner (we love ya, Liz!) that I finally took the plunge and decided, “well, what the hell, maybe I won’t come off as too much of a doofus”: Lerner started the Dissolve Record Club, where we would review an album a day per weekday, and offer up our thoughts and insights into the album’s construction, their songs, the artist themselves. And it began with my favorite artist of any medium of all time, David Bowie. In spite of writing tomes that even Melville would say, “son, you gotta get yourself an editor” about, the feedback was enormously positive, and suddenly the Dissolve became an essential part of my life. Many was the day where so much at my place of work would not get done because I was either checking for updates to see how many upvotes my latest jab at Jai Courtney got or to do editing work on that day’s assigned Leonard Cohen album. I was part of an honest to goodness supportive community at the Dissolve. I could share my love of all things superhero with commenters like Nerd in the Basement, trade jokes about cinematographers with The Narrator, talk about that day’s Prince album with Roboplegic Wrongcock and Klep, shake my head over whatever the latest provocation was said by Julius Kassendorf or Washington or Antonionian (7.1 for Fury Road dude?) or what Team Zissou Intern said was only worthy of 3.5 stars (Chinatown and Spinal Tap apparently). I could have a pun thread with Rachel Handler and Tasha Robinson and Charles Bramesco. These were happy days. Days of Chivo and Chastain pranks. of confusing Jai Courtney pictures with Sam Worthington pictures and vice versa. Of Deadpool jokes. Happy days.

    I’m going to miss those days at the Dissolve, but I cannot wait to see what the future holds here at the Solute (thank you for this so much Julius!) or on the Community boards at TOS or on our Facebook group or elsewhere. It was, as Dewey Cox would say, “a beautiful ride” at the Dissolve, but the future ride ahead here at the Solute and elsewhere is hopefully just as beautiful. To all of the brilliant writers now longer at the Dissolve, “I just wanted to say good luck, and we’re all counting on you.”

    Of all the websites on the interwebs that I had the pleasure of knowing on my travels, the Dissolve was the most…..human.

    Now, to go out on an up note, enjoy Denis Lavant dancing and playing accordion with abandon:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKDWk3dgjDs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMHXugVlzSw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR9ktdI4LFM

    • Nicely done 🙂

    • A. Square

      Heck yeah to all that. And I’m gonna be shallow, but thank christ you can embed video here. That was a huge selling point for me coming over from AVC in the first place and putting up with Disqus.

      • Tyler

        I know, I’ve become pretty fond of being able to post pics, gifs and videos in comments. Glad that’ll work here.

        EDIT: oh, I should post something to make the point…uh…woozle, wuzzle?

        http://i.imgur.com/Vy3hOXl.jpg?1

    • ludditerobot

      I’m not crying, you’re crying.

    • GrieverDeHocus

      Who will I riff with one Goodfellas anymore?

      • Dan Abnormal

        No new articles to comment on anymore? Fuck you, quote me. Website ceased to be? Fuck you, quote me.

        There we go! All is now right in the world…..*Dan begins to silently weep*

        • GrieverDeHocus

          For us to review any other way was nuts. Uh, to us, those other websites who published shitty listicles for bum paychecks and spewed hot takes, and worried about their follower counts, were dead. I mean they were suckers. They had no balls. If we wanted something we just reviewed it. If anyone complained twice they got critiqued so bad, believe me, they never complained again

    • I may have given it a 7.1 but it’s a hell of a fun time (and I’m very excited for the black and white). Having said that, thank you so much for this, it’s certainly made it all easier to deal with

  • scb0212

    I never really commented much on The Dissolve, though I wish I had (I would read the comments, though – how do you people find time to comment)? I love having people to talk film to, and I will miss lurking there. Where else, besides here, are there quality film discussions going on?

  • jroberts548

    I too would be interested in contributing to this site. At least for the time being, I have an excess of free time.

  • So Keith is going to turn Laser Age into a book, right? I need to read the conclusion to that series.

  • reflecto

    So I guess I have to do this now.

  • Shon3n

    I was more of a lurker on Dissolve, but maybe I’ll be more than a lurker here. I’ll miss that place.

  • Dan Abnormal

    Former Dissolves and current Soluters: sorry to take up more comment board space and equally sorry if the topic has been broached elsewhere, but I was wondering, much in the same way that the comment section did tributes to the departed Nathan Rabin by taking up some of the features he contributed to, would anyone be up for doing their own tribute to some of the now dearly departed features from the Dissolve? Like Movie of the Week or One Year Later (I wouldn’t want to touch Lazer Age, as I think that’s Keith’s territory and his territory only) and such? I wanted to throw the suggestion out there, to see if it would be more like a fitting tribute or more like stepping on already freshly trodded on toes. What do you all think?

    • Klep

      I’d like to see the Record Club continue here, at least.

      • Dan Abnormal

        I’m totally down for continuing that. I was supposed to post tonight on 4 Track Demos for the PJ Harvey Record Club in Roboplegic’s place, what do you think? Should I still post it tonight? Or should I give us contributing commentariat all a day to collect ourselves before getting back into the swing of things?

        • Klep

          I don’t think I’m up for it today.

          • Dan Abnormal

            Yeah, me neither, really. Still processing. I’m happy to get back to it tomorrow, if that would suit you and everyone else who is a contributor better.

        • A. Square

          Give it a day, I think. I’m still freaking out, I’m commenting in like four separate places, everything is a goddamn mess. Also maybe see how The Solute folks respond to what is clearly a huge ball being bounced into their court.

      • I never contribute and I’d like to see it live on.

    • A. Square

      Oh, hell yeah.

      • A. Square

        …Though I want very much to respect the wishes of all the incredible people who started The Solute in the first place. They’ve put in the hard work and passion, I wouldn’t want to step on that.

    • TheGuyWhoShowsUpLateToThreads

      I was actually thinking about that. Some of those features are so great (One Year Later is honestly such a good idea for a regular feature that I can’t believe nobody on a major website had thought of it before) that it would be a shame to bid farewell to them forever. I think keeping them up here might be a nice way to continue The Dissolve’s legacy, if that makes sense.

    • While we’re on continuations: @burgundysuit:disqus, will the Summer of Rabin go on? Half way through my “Films That Time Forgot” piece and this happens. What’s the buzz?

      • I cross-posted mine here when I wrote it.

    • I have definitely thought of great recommendations for some features and I’d be happy to write about them

  • Roboplegic Wrongcock

    There is no way in hell I want to stop the Record Club! We were just in the middle of PJ Harvey dammit!

    You got the space for another long running article series here at The Solute?

    • “we were just in the middle of X” – the story of the Dissolve’s end.

      Sorry, crying.

    • I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE RECORD CLUB! For Pete’s sake, we can’t just stop now!

    • Dan Abnormal

      I think Record Club is most likely going to continue on here at the Solute. I don’t quite feel up to doing the 4 Track Demos entry tonight (I’m still kind of shaken and processing this news), and I don’t know as of right now where it will turn up on the site, in amongst what articles and what have you, but I think we can get it back up and running sometime soon. I know Klep is absolutely up for it, as am I, as I see you are.

      • Roboplegic Wrongcock

        My plan is to become a columnist on here (permission willing), and then do the initial first posts as articles. I would then try and publish them even if time was bad or I didn’t have much to say, and then have the rest occur in the comments.

  • time to gradually begin training my browser to auto-complete “t” with “the-solute.com” instead of “thedissolve.com”…

    • dwightdavis

      I’m dreading tomorrow morning when I come in and reflexively go to The Dissolve and find it no longer there. And the next day. And as long as it takes for my browser to stop popping up with thedissolve.com every time I type a t in the address bar.

  • Persia

    Very nice tribute, Wallflower.

  • The_MTA

    I never commented as much as I wanted to on The Dissolve, but I’m going to try and start doing so over here. Hopefully most of the community makes the switch over, because they really were/are fantastic.

  • My Dissolve Story:

    I joined the Dissolve commentariat within the past year or so, and have continued to comment on it again and again. After some bum experiences with plenty of comment boards, and hating the meme-ified, irony-drenched, insincere boards I ran into, I took Internet comment boards to all be a joke. Sure, AVC has a few nice areas (Community, Gameological, etc.), but overall, the Internet is a cesspool of bad, toxic comment areas. So when I came across the Dissolve, and fell in love with the articles (i joined as a staunch Rabinite). I picked an avatar and a tag that would be humorous and add a layer of distance between the fact that I was commenting on the Internet and my real, truly sincere personality in real life.

    Then, I started to notice how many people were sharing honest thoughts without the irony, without the cynicism, and without the disrespect, and I slowly realized that my attempts to be “above it all” were just keeping me from being connected to a really beautiful community.

    I’ll keep batboy for awhile, but I do consider you all part of my community. It’s a weird thing I never thought I’d say, but I’m saying it.

    • dwightdavis

      Sort of the same story. I commented for awhile (under my real name and face, obviously), but never really divulged anything personal about myself. Until a Noah article where I approached the film as a Christian (who loved Noah passionately), terrified about the backlash I would face for daring to interpret the film as someone with faith. I was so shocked to discover a kind, supportive and engaged response to what I had to say. It was the only comments section where I felt like I could really be myself with no fear of snark or anger or hatred, just open-minded, truthful discussion.

      • I didn’t read the actual article itself, but I have zero doubts that we were a kind and open group to you. Everyone was to me, and I’m a total dork who won’t stop talking about Blade II and being a sex pervert.

        There’s a place for anybody here, as long as you’re willing to engage and be respectful. I love that.

      • ludditerobot

        That’s fascinating and a great example (and I think I remember your comment). I think some of the conversations about faith and film were among my favorites, as someone who doesn’t identify strongly with any but was raised Catholic, and relates to those themes on a personal level. In most places (at least in my experience), the very suggestion would have sent things off the rails, or at best would’ve been met with snark. Not so much in that comment section.

        • dwightdavis

          I tried to do the same thing on [name redacted] and got tons of snark followed by a ban. The Dissolve was so wonderful.

        • dwightdavis

          Maybe I could do some kind of faith/philosophy and film post over here. I do have a master’s degree in religion and philosophy.

          • That would be perfect! I know at least @washington:disqus would have some thoughts on that…

          • Oh, can we please get Washington over here more? We just got him back at The Dissolve, and I’d really missed him.

          • ludditerobot

            I would read that.

          • DJ JD

            I would read that too.

      • You might want to check out the articles BurgundySuit and I both did on The Last Temptation of Christ here. We both came at it from religious angles.

    • A. Square

      High five, WetButts. I’ve always enjoyed your presence, and goddamn if I haven’t also been touched by just how real everyone keeps it. It makes me want to write better, think better, live better. Also, please keep asking us what games we play, I’d rather discuss it with y’all than anybody else.

      • Thanks Square, I’ve loved your contributions to the board.

        I’m curious what kind of room there will be for us game-playing dissolvers around here. Maybe we can incorporate it in some small way alongisde new Record Club and What Have You been Watching? posts.

        • dwightdavis

          Speaking of games: I just started playing Bioshock Infinite yesterday because I only play games that have been out forever and I can’t wait to really dive into it. I only got about 45 minutes logged but I love the world so far.

          • Combining two topics: I would love to know how you think the game tackles religion (after you beat it though).

          • dwightdavis

            I’m interested to see that too. So far it has made me cringe. Not because it’s bad or offensive, but because it’s so dead on in it’s portrayal of the toxic mixture of American exceptionalism and evangelical Christianity. I know people who would have a faith pretty close to what I’ve seen so far.

          • The early portions of the game build a super compelling toxic portrait of American Evangelism, but the game builds in nuance as it goes as well. I’m not a believer, but I still appreciated the brighter picture the game paints. No good, no evil, just men and women.

        • A. Square

          From what wallflower and AnthonyPizzo are saying, it seems like they’ll be instituting daily open threads for us to hang out in. There juuuuust might be a god after all.

        • DoctorJamilton

          Anyone who liked Stranglehold is good people in my book.

    • GrieverDeHocus

      My username is a magical trickster figure created by an American Indian living in China, so I think I will keep it.

      And I already added you on the letterboxd. I am the Sullivan.

      • I will continue to refer to you as such, as I do not intend to bring the wrath of this most motley of figures.

    • ludditerobot

      Can I join this chorus?

      My Dissolve Story —

      I am an inveterate website lurker. Aside from the occasional, extremely specific forum related to work or activism, I’ve always shied away from commenting at all. Part of this has been a general, not particularly interesting shyness and reluctance to debate (“I don’t really wanna get into a whole thing and shit, I mean, whatever, it’s the internet”); part of it has been just being overwhelmed, as others have said, when confronted with a 738 comment thread I happened upon, even if I did have what seemed a worthwhile insight or funny joke; and part of it has been the feeling that other people are a) so closely linked in their referential discourse and Simpson’s jokes I have to look up that it would be pointless, and b) anything I might have to say has almost certainly been said, far better, by someone else way down in the mix. So I’d read and chuckle and nod approvingly and get annoyed, but generally just assume there wasn’t much of a reason to chime in.

      I came to The Dissolve because I like movies, and like Rabin’s writing. I don’t really play video games or watch tv or read comic books, so it was always movies I was there for in the first place. The idea of a great collection of writers focused solely on film was like a present, so I dutifully lurked, as is my wont. But reading through the comments, it became immediately apparent that something else was going on here. The sincerity of the posts, the way people expressed themselves respectfully but still mixed in legitimately hilarious and nerdy jokes (that I got! sometimes!), and the overall genial vibe that pervaded the discussion was different. So eventually, I spoke up about something or other. To my surprise, I felt like I just slid into the conversation, rather than being an ignored outlier or, worse, dismissed. This never happens, not online anyway. I felt like I got to know different voices and different personalities in legitimate, fascinating back-and-forths, and the contributors chimed in, too. It just felt so fucking approachable.

      I actually started writing about movies in the last little bit or so simply based on the confidence I found in these discussions. That there’s validity to your viewpoint and you can approach things without tearing them down, but just to engage with them, see how they work, invite others to agree or disagree without it turning into some nasty or cynical endeavor to show how smart you are. That’s been really valuable to me and added a lot to my life. Plus, both Dissolve posts/articles and you folks in the comments have steered me toward all sorts of things I might’ve missed, and encouraged me to take film more seriously. I’m now like reading books about early film history, reading biographies, seeking out one-week runs of restored classics, and so forth.

      The entire thing has brought me a lot of joy, and I really appreciate it.

    • reflecto

      I am not on Letterboxd, but I like that you agree with me a lot.

      • join the Facebook group or the solute or something reflecto, because I’ve got a feeling we’ve got more things to agree on.

        • reflecto

          I am at the Solute, for the moment.

    • Mr. Logical

      Really late to this but I’ll say a couple of words.

      I was there from the very beginning – first thing I remember is reading a tumblr post by Scott about seeing a My Little Pony movie and thinking “okay, maybe this will be better than Pitchfork” – but I didn’t expect to be here for the end. Because I didn’t think there would be an end so soon.

      What I loved the most is how genuine everything was. The writers had a true love of their work and field, and it inspired us to regulate ourselves. I’m shocked and a bit proud that we kept that going for two years. I wish we could have tried for more.

      There was no better place. There will never be a better place.

    • rolandsaintlaurent

      I remember being extremely hesitant to comment on Dissolve articles because some of the writing just in the comments section was really good. Like, it actually intimidated me. I never got the nerve to contribute to things like Lovefest but when I eventually joined in it was great getting to know like-minded cinephiles. I disagreed on some things (I adore Amelie while it seems like everyone there HATES it) but overall The Dissolve was my go-to for smart film conversation and unlike any other forum I’d ever visited.

      Also, your username is by far my favorite. You have no idea how many times I’ve wanted to type “according to WetButts…”

      • What I love about the Dissolve was that there was room for me to defend Prometheus and The Counselor and such, but I’d still get compelling arguments for why they suck. It’s good to stay well-rounded in your film experience, and to pop your bubble every now and then. Just going along with what the Internet Hive Mind agrees with is awesome is a boring way to live life, and I think we broke the cycle here. There was room for Birdman defenders, even, those dirty, filthy sonsa-

        Aw, thanks man! I appreciate anyone who remembers that Captain America’s awesome movie with Chris Evans and Tommy Lee Jones was NOT the first one.

    • DJ JD

      I walked away from the keyboard too soon yesterday! I’m sorry I missed this when you posted it. You, roland and luddite are all describing my experience, too: I basically don’t post online and I *never* commit to an “online community”–except for The late great Dissolve. I lurked and lurked and lurked and when my posts didn’t kick of firestorms of stupidity, I regretted waiting so long to post.

      And on the point: you’re one of my favorite posters from there, for all the reasons you listed loving the community. Stay genuine and real, man; you’ve got good stuff to share.

      • Thanks DJ JD, I’ve always loved reading your stuff and you better make the transition over to the Solute, the FB group and such, because it’d suck to lose your insight.

    • Doorman

      There were times I worried my posts were getting too snarky and irreverent because I was too lazy to post anything longer and more in-depth (also because english isn’t my first language and I get tired of spellchecking huge effortposts for grammar).

      I am just glad we all got the chance to enjoy these two years together, and even if we’ll never get the old Dissolve back we can still have some kind of community in this place.

      Really enjoyed your posts too, Wetbutts.

  • Reverend Doctor Drewcifer

    Positivity Thread: Where do we go to find thoughtful movie writing?

    Movie Morlocks – Specifically anything by David Kalat
    Ebert.com – The Unloved Series of Video Essays
    Slant Magazine

    • DoctorJamilton

      Movie Mezzanine comes the closest in terms of thoughtful analysis and a couple of the freelancers might be familiar to you guys. The comment section is all but deceased, except for a few weirdly aggressive conspiracy-types that came out for the Soaked In Bleach review.

      • Reverend Doctor Drewcifer

        Excellent. Thank you!

    • Miller

      I’m a big fan of Nick Pinkerton’s Bombast column at Film Comment and Glenn Kenny’s Some Came Running blog.
      http://www.filmcomment.com/entry/bombast-independence-films (most recent Pinkerton)
      http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/

      • Reverend Doctor Drewcifer

        Thanks!

      • Reverend Doctor Drewcifer

        Dear god, Glenn Kenny’s blogathon entry on Ken Russell’s Lisztomania is righteous.

    • Doorman

      366 Weird Movies isn’t really a professional site, but I have followed G. Smalley since I became an cinephile and the site still features some great writing.

      http://366weirdmovies.com/

  • I’m a little behind the curve all the time, but I’m glad I knew about the-solute before this happened. Chin up everybody!!

  • Spaghetti Lee

    Hi. At work, can’t say much, but I’ll be around.

  • Magpie

    Really lovely write-up @disqus_wallflower:disqus. It speaks volumes about The Dissolve that it has inspired so many heart-felt comments about it going.

    P.S. Which user is the admin for the facebook group? I’ve sent a request to join to no avail. I feel like the last girl to be picked whilst forming teams in P.E. Not that I would know, that never happened to me, nope, never.

    • DoctorJamilton

      IIRC it was pilotfish or Nymphomaniac Vol. XI that made it. Most likely. Last night has kind of blurred and bled into this morning. I didn’t sleep much.

      • Magpie

        Thank you! Sorry to hear you didn’t get a good night’s sleep.

  • Persia
  • Really great sendoff, @disqus_wallflower:disqus. I really don’t have anything to add. Just thanks for writing that.

  • Defense Against The Dark Arts

    The Dissolve closing is like the final scene of The Sopranos. I’m left asking myself, “What the fuck just happened?”

    • Hubert Vigilla

      They were listening to Journey

      • Defense Against The Dark Arts

        That was the confounding part.

  • tibber

    Was it explained why this happened so suddenly? I don’t feel like reading a thousand comments.

    Also, hey.

    • Hey. And no, no explanation has been appeared as of now.

    • He Hate Cans

      My guess: When you’re cancelling something due to low traffic, giving them and their readership a heads up gives them an opportunity to bring out the big stories, increase promotion, and drive up page views with an artificial bump that only muddies the waters once you’ve already decided to pull the plug.

      • ludditerobot

        Sigh.

      • Doesn’t explain why the answer was “midway through a freakin’ Wednesday,” though.

        • pico79

          Yeah, that’s the weirdest part of this whole story to me. Especially since they didn’t give any of the staff advanced notice, given Tobias’ twitter comments. Apparently they found out a few hours before we did, which is a real dick move.

          • Oh, that’s not evil at all.

          • DJ JD

            …A-a-a-and I need to keep reading down before I post. Wow. That’s just…wow. Yeah, that’s horrible.

        • jroberts548

          There was an article yesterday morning (!) about a festival in the fall that the Dissolve was going to cover.

          • Yeah, definitely going with “evil” here.

        • DJ JD

          I’ve been thinking about this since yesterday (for obvious reasons) and I’m seriously wondering if there was some last-ditch salvation plan in the works that fell through. There’s so many other ways this could’ve been handled besides “Hey let’s talk about Grizzly Man oh wait no actually buh-bye.”

          • Interesting theory. I wonder if we’ll ever know.

      • tibber

        That’s a dick move.

      • DJ JD

        I hope that’s not it, but that does make a certain cutthroat sense.

  • Ruck Cohlchez

    This was really surprising to me. I was not a regular or frequent Dissolve reader, but I started to read the comments more and more lately for the quality of the community, something I had found lacking on the Internet recently. Even though I’m more of a TV watcher and commenter than a movie/film buff, a community of intelligent motion-picture-storytelling buffs was still a rare enough find to be worth my time to visit.

    Speaking of TV, my hope for a silver lining in all this is that it allows the Dissolve writers to do more TV work. I feel starved for intelligent TV criticism; with the change in tone at TOS and in the comments section over the last year or so, it really isn’t that anymore, and some of the Dissolve writers have written some of the best TV criticism around. Whoever in the comments said that the Dissolve writers were “the opposite of contrarians” was spot-on, and internet TV criticism has become nearly all contrarian, or more concerned with using a show as a prism for whatever social issue of the day is on the writer’s mind. Very often, TV writes seem to disregard what they’re actually watching Writers who are honest and passionate about the medium are increasingly rare. I might even throw my hat in the ring if television writing is needed for this site; I’ve been meaning to do some of that anyway, and you know what they say about wanting a job done right, being the change you wish to see, etc.

    Specific grievances against the state of TV criticism aside, I look forward to the increased commenter community here. I started commenting here because of @disqus_wallflower:disqus’s reviews of The Shield, but increasingly on all the articles and authors’ works. Perhaps this site can continue to sustain the Dissolve community. The end of one story is also the beginning of another.

  • QueueOfBricks

    First time here! Hopefully this helps me get over the death of The Dissolve

  • Defense Against The Dark Arts

    I’ve been listening to this song a lot this week. It seems apropos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebtC3ORg9fU

  • So this may be a stupid question but what is the significance of the name Dissolve and Solute for that matter?

    • “Dissolve” is a film term; it’s what happens when you simultaneously fade out on one image and fade in on another. Our own Michael Guarneri discusses them here: http://www.the-solute.com/dissolves-what-they-are-and-why-we-should-love-them/ “Solute” is a chemistry term; it’s the thing that dissolves. (In salt water, the solute is the salt.) I think we’re gonna have to explain that a bit more now.

      • He Hate Cans

        Of course now this place is also a solute to a great film site that is no more

      • Oh crazy I was right about Solute. And I feel extremely stupid for not putting that together. Some film student I am.

      • Tyler

        If I’m remembering correctly, it was Fyodor Douchetoevsky who suggested the name “The Solute” and Julius took to it.

  • BNF

    Thanks Wallflower. That’s just what I needed to hear.

  • pico79

    Is this the check-in system for survivors? Is there a buddy system involved? Life rafts and such for this Ark?

    Awesome post, wallflower! I look forward to keeping up relationships I made over at the other site, and reading what you all have to say on a regular basis.

    • DJ JD

      I don’t think I reply directly to your posts much, but I wanted to mention that you’re one of the people I pay close attention to when you post. Just sayin’.

      • pico79

        Thank you – that’s very kind! Glad to see you over here, too.

  • Spaghetti Lee

    Okay, so: It is great to see everyone reunited and planning on reviving whatever they can of the old site, but I’d just like to ask if Julius and co. are OK with it, because it’s their site after all. I’m open to whatever options become available.

  • CertainsGars

    Anyone want to continue the The Dissolve Film School? This could be great opportunity to gain new writers while continuing the spirit of The Dissolve.

  • Anna Cabe

    I’ve never really spent time here (I spent much of my lurking/sporadic commenting over at The Dissolve) but howdy. The Dissolve commentariat was the best, most insightful, and most respectful, so following the train of y’all.

  • Todd wrote up a really nice eulogy for the site on his Tumblr: http://vanderwha.tumblr.com/post/123582335889/dissolve-ends I like how he addresses something that most obits for the site haven’t – which is that the site was taking a more social outrage tone in its final months, and was finding a really, really strong balance in where to aim the outrage and how much outrage is worthwhile. The note that he ends on about the de-niche-ificiation of the internet is pretty sad, too.

    • ludditerobot

      I wish I didn’t agree with it so much.

    • reflecto

      He’s right: Outrage is now a marketable commodity, Instant Coffee. And it’s boring. It’s what we use to couch our petty grievances, our personal hurts, our neuroses in a sociocultural cloaking device that instantly gives it a buff for righteousness. Worst of all, it cheapens any real, serious discussion of any kind of tangible earthbound justice, or our identities or our politics (I won’t be saying identity politics).

      He’s also right that there is no next. There is no money to be made. I just wish for his and others’ sake that they’d figured that out ten years ago. That’s why I got out of journalism after high school.

      • Doorman

        One of the constants of the net seems to be the instant catharsis of venting and outrage instead of balanced discussion. I think every single website that I have eventually stopped posting on I left because the discourse started to become more about this than debate.

        I hope we get to continue things here.

  • I’d like to make my introduction here as I did on The Dissolve: saying Night Moves (2013) is the god damn best amd I hope you all see it.

    • Childish Callow Gleam

      the dvd is sitting in front of my tv right now

      edit: is that not how these things work?

  • Longtime lurker of The Dissolve and just found out that this site exists.

    This is amazing.

  • Good Shot Green

    Hello, site I’ve never heard of but looks acceptable. Maybe I’ll get into the groove here.

  • Keegan

    Had never heard of this site before seeing it linked in the comments section on The Dissolve but looks good.

  • Hubert Vigilla

    Hey, dudes. I brought hummus, baby carrots, and a frisbee.

  • Neil Poon Handler

    Hey, guys – really cool site! I’m migrating from The Dissolve (may it rest in peace) to here. I’m looking forward to reading your articles – it already looks pretty fascinating and fun. 🙂

  • Alien Jesus

    Hello? Hello? Hello?

    :::::sticks toe in water::::

    Oh it’s fine at The Solute!

    :::::splashes around in glee:::::

  • Tracys Face

    Like many others here, I was very taken aback and sad with the loss of our special corner of the web. Still, though: never have I ever felt more grateful for the spirit and generosity of this community.

    Thanks for writing this, @disqus_wallflower:disqus. Thanks to the wonderful contributors to The Dissolve that made it an oasis of great writing and discussion and sincerity for every day for two whole years. And a big thanks to each and every one of you commentators: it’s been a privilege to be able to commiserate with you all not just here but also on Facebook and, of course, the website that brought us all together in the first place.

    Let’s do our best to keep talking and sharing and loving, to say nothing of giving shoutouts, wherever and however we can, to all of our beloved Dissolve writers who are now, absurdly, out of a job.

    The world hasn’t ended, and we still have a home. To quote Jed Bartlett: “What’s next?”

  • BNF

    So what do we call The Dissolve now, since The Other Site/ The Old Site is already taken?

    • Those Eyebrows

      The Green Place?

      • BNF

        *Ding ding* We have a preliminary winner!

    • Childish Callow Gleam

      Rosebud?

    • DJ JD

      So far I’ve been using “The late great Dissolve”, capitalized like that. Not sure if I’ll keep it, shorten it to TlgD or what, but so far so good I guess.

    • Klep

      I plan on calling it The Dissolve.

      • BNF

        Dammit man, we’re civilized people. We need acronyms!

  • If I wasn’t at work in a new stupidly rigid job (I’m wearing slacks! In the Summer! In Seattle! Oh the humanity…), I’d have been here with you guys. I’m humbled by how quickly you guys took to it (and I’ve been hearing the emails of comments as I worked). I come in and the thread is 373 comments deep. Jeez.

    Thank you Wallflower for being quick on the response and setting up a nest. Thank you guys for coming over here and having fun. Don’t be afraid of us (and I’ll be in a much more present mode come Saturda. Until Monday comes around again. Dammit).

    • Thanks Julius for being the steward of this bastion of hope. If there is a financial demand to keep this site functioning, I would be willing to chip in for a subscription fee. Does Disqus cost money? Are there “overhead” costs for running the site? Honestly, I think many of us would be willing to avoid what happened at The Dissolve, and while I know contributors to this site are doing it on their own time without pay, it doesn’t mean that we should take this place for granted.

      • I hate hocking this, but if you guys see something that piques your interest in the ad space, go ahead and click it now and then. It actually does bring it a little bit more revenue than mere impressions. I know, it sucks (I hate even saying it), but that would help a bit.

        • pico79

          Greater love hath no man than he who turns off his adblocker to access this site.

          (which I did, and I’ll make a point to click on things regularly. Thanks for welcoming us all, the stranded, over here!)

    • You’re welcome Julius. I figured we needed to get something up quickly. I’ve already set up a short article for the morning.

  • Mr. Logical

    Ah, I wish I’d run into this sooner! I’ve seen half a dozen tributes to the Dissolve, but none were as heartfelt, sincere, and wonderfully written as this one.

    Also, if you guys need more writers, I’d be happy to assist. I just need submission/pitch information. I can’t get enough of those tacos when they’re served this tasty.

  • Josh Brooks

    *pulls up to comment section blastin U.G.K., pours some out for the Dissolve*

    • Fyodor Douchetoevsky

      *stares directly at you when they get to the hook of I’m So Bad*

  • Fyodor Douchetoevsky

    Man, I really wish I had just buckled down and typed up some words for you guys when this was getting together. Just like the time I could have met Mr. T at the mall. The entire day I kept saying “I’ll go a little later, I’ll go a little later” and then when I got there they told me he just left. And when I asked the mall guy if he’d ever come back again… He said he didn’t know…

    • Tyler

      Well, let’s not let something like that happen to us again! I’m going to write something for The Solute RIGHT NOW.

      Well, not right now, but hopefully something real soon.

  • Those Eyebrows

    Glad to see so many people making the jump over here. I’ll definitely be trying to get more involved this time around.

    As I said in my post over in the Old Country, this isn’t the end, it’s just a long taco break.

  • Nomad

    I know I wasn’t the most active over at The Dissolve, but I feel like I lost something truly and deeply important to me today. There’s no other site like The Dissolve, with its perfect blend of… everything.

    So what is this place exactly? Run by users from The Dissolve?

  • seankgallagher

    Well said, well spoken.

  • Declan Giggs

    God bless you, Wallflower. For your contributions, your passion, and your sincerity. You have carried the torch from The AV Club, to The Dissolve, to The Solute. It’s your time now.

    And, to all of those amazing Dissolve writers, thank you from the bottom of our hearts. You have guided, challenged, moved, and thrilled us with your evocative writing that shall stand as some of the best film criticism one is likely to find.

    Thank you all so much.

    • Thank you for following and commenting!

      Honestly, my first reaction to your carrying-the-torch comment was to see me, @JuliusKassendorf:disqus, @disqus_7AOfmTpErb:disqus, and the rest of the Solute staff standing above a desert valley with all the snarky commentary of the Internet down there and then I yell NO PRISONERS! NO PRISONERS!

      • Declan Giggs

        Sounds about right!

  • Tyler

    I posted a version of this on the The End Thread, buried somewhere in the middle of 2k-plus comments but thought I’d share it here with y’all too.

    The Dissolve meant a lot to me.

    As a pop culture obsessed kid, discovering the AV Club (in 2000-ish, when one of my college roommates started getting a physical copy of The Onion delivered to our house) was a revelation. It was a group of writers who took music, television and movies as seriously as I did and had an incredible amount of perspective, insight, humor and knowledge to share. It was a real big deal for me and getting to know the writers personalities through their opinions and pieces was a real pleasure. The decision to follow them here from the Av Club was easy for me because in my view these writers WERE the AV Club.

    And the level of writing, film analysis and interesting and fun perspective brought by the staff at The Dissolve was top notch. But, this commenting community is what has been so special to me. No need to go on and on about it, but there really was a unique tone to the comments around there. Really enthusiastic, informed, and interesting but moreover, supportive, inclusive and interested. I loved having a commenting space that had commenters of all stripes (men, women, gay, straight, transgender, asexual, high-minded, low-minded, joking, deadly serious, etc. etc.) and reading takes that I wouldn’t have necessarily come up with on my own. Folks were always willing to let others have their say and say their piece, even if it revealed them to be a jackass (even the trolls wanted to be a part of it on some level…remember when I broke Vinny’s brain momentarily and he went on his apology tour!?!)

    On a personal note, I got really into contributing during a stretch where my family was in process of moving from South East Asia back to the US and I was away from my wife and son for about three months, while I finished up my work contract. Having The Dissolve and all the Dissolvers to help me get my mind off of missing my family by talkin’ movies was a big deal to me…plus I had a ball! I dig bs’ing with all of you and look forward to continuing it here at The Solute and points elsewhere.

    And to the Dissolve writers, you aren’t gonna get rid of us that easily…we’ll find you where ever you land. Hopefully you’ll make it over here to mix it up with us in the comments! It was just so much easier to have all my favorite writers in one easy to find location!! It’ll be worth the trip to track you down to hear what’s on you mind tho…once a Dissolver, always a Dissolver.

  • Raoul F. Gonzo

    Well said Wallflower.

  • AtomBombadil

    Hey I am coming from The Dissolve. Hopefully I will try to be more active here than there now that I know good things can never last. Seeing a lot of familiar faces, wish I knew about this site before!

  • Rocky Shores

    Thank you for your insight into The Dissolve, @disqus_wallflower:disqus. You describe exactly what I think about those great writers…conscientious and thought provoking cinephiles. I look forward to joining them at their next destination. I’d also like to tell you how much I enjoyed your write-up on Barry Lyndon, a film that isn’t discussed enough.

    • Barry Lyndon does need to be discussed more and it needs to be enjoyed more. So much damn fun in the first half and then it all goes to shit in the second.

  • Josh Beech Y’all

    Hey guys, I’ll just park it right over here.

  • Reverend Doctor Drewcifer

    Geoff over at De Palma a la mod pays tribute:

    http://www.angelfire.com/de/palma/blog/

  • Two Headed Boy

    Marry me.

  • I, Max

    I’m here now. I’m sorry it took so long.